Men and Women are organizing in all 50 States as I write this.
Please stay tuned for further updates.
We asking that you boycott MSNBC, NBC and all of their affiliates on May 20, 2008.
Local Stations
- WLWT 1700 Young St. Cincinnati, OH 45210 http://www.wlwt.com
- WKYC 1333 Lakeside Ave. Cleveland, OH 44114 http://www.wkyc.com
- WCMH 3165 Olentangy River Rd. Columbus, OH 43202 http://www.nbc4columbus.com
- WDTN 4595 S. Dixie Drive, P.O. Box 741 (45401) Dayton, OH 45439 http://www.wdtn.com
- WLIO 1424 Rice Ave. Lima, OH 45805 http://www.wlio.com
- WTOV P.O. Box 9999, Altamont Heights Steubenville, OH 43952 http://www.wtov.com
- WNWO 300 S. Byrne Rd. Toledo, OH 43615 http://www.nbc24.com
- WFMJ 1 P.O. Box 6230 Youngstown, OH 44503 http://www.wfmj.com
- WHIZ 629 Downward Road Zanesville, OH 43701 http://www.whizamfmtv.com
Please arrive with as many people as you can, at your local station, anytime during the day with signs etc...
The message is Stop the Sexism: HILLARY is the BEST candidate for PRESIDENT FOR ALL AMERICANS: MALE and FEMALE.
Please try to get video of your boycott efforts and put them on YouTube
88 comments:
I won't vote for Obama if he gets this nomination!
I demand FL and MI to be counted and seated as the results are!
or I am leaving this party and I hope Hillary will follow me!
Obama does not share my values!
I have no choice other than Mccain!
Hillary should run independant!
we will all vote for Hillary!
You go girls!
I was so proud to see you two on FOX!
We are not giving up.
And you call yourselves democrats? How? You are going to vote for the enemy WHEN your candidate loses? She lost...Face the music. Absolutely no way she can win. PERIOD!
And another thing, how come you only have 4 states in your reply e-mail? Nice national campaign. Almost as good as Hilary's.
OBAMA in 08
Change We Can Believe In
I saw you on Bill-O’s program. You 2 are a disgrace! This country is in deep trouble if McBush wins the election. (or reelection!)
First, Obama has never treated Hillary with disrespect. However, the last straw for me with Hillary was when she endorsed McCain over Obama by saying she and McCain have experience and Obama had a speech. What an insult. She has proven that judgment is much more important than experience. Experience got us Iraq, deficits and a country more vulnerable since prior to 9-11. We need total change that will take us beyond Bush AND Clinton.
It is obvious you are not real Democrats, just Republican operatives. Nobody will take you seriously.
Sincerely,
Dave Kaminsky
A Real Democrat
I also noticed that both of the people making negative comments here are men. No big surprise. I am not a man-hater- but doubt that most men understand the negative attacks on Hillary as well as women do.
Why can't people dissagree with Hillary without being called anti-women. You people need to get a life!
Hillary would make a better President that McCain. No question. But we need a fresh start and someone who hasn't been in Washington long enough to be tainted. Obama is our best choice on his own merits, not because of any other reason.
Crying about Hillary getting a bad break because she is a woman does her a disservice. You diminish her with this crap and this movement.
Dear Fellow Ohioans,
I saw two of your spokespersons on Fox news.
I am saddened and appalled that instead of moving with the majority of democratic voters, which have validated Senator Obama's leadership, you have chosen to make threats on national television.
Especially in my home state of Ohio, and in Columbus of all places.
I am saddened by your public display of fracture of the democratic process.
This is not a gender based issue. This is a voter issue. Read the constitution.
Senator Clinton has not run a winning race, and she should be as patriotic as possible and support her party by joining with Senator Obama.
I await your response. This should be a good one. My friends at the Columbus Dispatch must be having a field day with this one...
Regards,
Gussie Miller
dear obama supporters,
if you doubt sexism exists in the media, watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
If you think Obama can win in Nov., check out this website:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May18.html
Obama loses the electoral map, Hillary wins. If you are REAL democrats you will support the candidate who can win the White House.
dear obama supporters,
if you doubt sexism exists in the media, watch this video:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kcdnlNZg2iM
If you think Obama can win in Nov., check out this website:
http://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2008/Obama/Maps/May18.html
Obama loses the electoral map, Hillary wins. If you are REAL democrats you will support the candidate who can win the White House.
Thank you girls for going on Fox news and telling it like it is.
I first became eligible to vote when John F. Kennedy ran for President and I have voted a democratic ticket ever since.
Like many in the beginning I was impressed with the words of change by the eloquence of Obama's words.
I watched all 21 debates, the compassion debate and the last debate, I decided that the only candidate worthy with the experience, intelligence and no how and who demonstrates great strength in foreign policy to go up against John McCain, would have to be Hillary Clinton.
Yet the news media and the DNC wouldn't let their shining star die on the vine which he would if the primarys were held today after learning of his character flaws, poor judgment and lack luster plans to carry out all those fancy words.
I have switched my support to Hillary and don't understand why the DNC and the many delegates don't have the guts to do the right thing as their candidate Obama has lost his luster and has nothing to do with skin color. He just flat isn't ready yet and we don't have 4 years to waste while he is nutured by political bosses.
His speeches are no longer his, it is so obvious he is now controlled by a group that can manipulate him as he doesn't know what he is doing.
I am very angry the way the establishment has treated Hillary.
She is strong and still standing and proves she is the best choice to beat John McCain. The people know it, but when is the DNC and superdelegates going to come thru for the people.
The DNC is wasting it's time putting her on the VP spot. There is no way some of us Democrats want Obama as our nominee at this time. He needs time to learn the ropes before he can take this country out of the Bush crisis for which Hillary is ready now. We need HER, not him.
The shining star needs time to growup, we need a strong leader.
Thanks angry in Kansas
I know that our country can not afford to wait for 4 more years while Hilary screws it up. She does not have a clue. After all look at her campaign finance. We really can't afford ($) her especially since she can not even pay dry cleaning bills from Iowa that she still has not paid since Jan. You call that fiscal responsibility? NO!
Tom, why do you think Obama's policy's are better than Hillary's? The reason Obama has tapped into more money is because his crowd are the "elitists" of America. Us "working class" Americans don't have as much disposable income. Obama consistently outspends Hillary in every state and he still can't put her away. He doesn't care about working class America (he barely campaigned in West Virginia and Kentucky and he calls women "sweetie." He's failing to embrace Hillary supporters at every turn.
Melissa,
Who is really the elitist? Hillary had a privileged upbringing and is worth over $100,000,000.00. Obama was raised by a single mother and had nothing given to him. He earned everything he has.
He is perceived as an elitist due to his superior intelligence. Frankly, we need intelligence in the Whitehouse after the last 7 years!
Hillary just lost, it's over and we need to unite.
Hey Obama supporters - this is a pro Hillary site. If you don't like it, there are TONS of other sites out there that bash Hillary on a daily basis while praising Obama for everything and anything he does.
The people here and on the other websites cropping up against this Obama-hystaria have a right to there views, and don't need to be hassled by eccentric jerks like yourself.
Hillary in 08. If she's not the nominee, then I'll vote McCain. Anyone but Obama.
If you are in NYC, come to this demonstration in solidarity with "Clinton Supporters Count Too."
NYC Demonstration Against Media Bias & Sexism
When: Tomorrow! Kentucky & Oregon Primary Election Night:
Tuesday, May 20th, 6:30 p.m.-8:30 p.m.
Where: NBC Studios, 30 Rockefeller Plaza (Assemble on 49th Street near 30 Rockefeller Plaza)
How: We have contacted the police precinct for the area. We do not need a permit to demonstrate. However, the part of the sidewalk that is closest to the NBC building is private property. We will assemble on 49th Street and Rockefeller Center (in between 5th & 6th Avenues). You can take the B, D, F, or V to 47-50th Streets/Rockefeller Center to get there.
What to Bring: Signs that Read Any of the Following:
“Hillary Clinton Supporters Count Too,” or “Fire Chris Matthews!” or “No Media Bias!” or “Do Not Let The Media Choose Our President!” OR Make Up Your Own. Also, if you have a Hillary Clinton T-shirt, wear it!
Also, if you are in Tampa, FL, my fellow Clinton supporters are putting on a demo. Here's the info:
Tampa Demonstration Against NBC & Media Bias & Sexism
When: Kentucky & Oregon Primary Election Night:
Tuesday, May 20th, 6:30 p.m.-8:30 p.m.
Where: WFLA, Channel 8, NBC Affiliate, 202 S.
Parker Street
How: We will assemble on Kennedy Blvd. (near S. Parker
Street, Channel 8 & Tampa Tribune Blvd.) for
visibility. Then we will walk together to 202. S.
Parker Street and demonstrate in front of WFLA.
What to Bring: Signs that Read Any of the Following:
“Hillary Clinton Supporters Count Too,” or “Fire Chris
Matthews!” or “No Media Bias!” or “Do Not Let The
Media Choose Our President!” OR Make Up Your Own.
Also, if you have a Hillary Clinton T-shirt, wear it!
RSVP: RSVP to this e-mail and let me know you are
coming (and how many in your group). This way we will
know how many extra signs to bring.
Do all of you Obama supporters know that when Kennedy ran against Carter he went to the convention with fewer delegates than Clinton and less swing states won? Do your research. A woman is being asked to drop out who has a better argument than her counterparts in the past.
They did not have superdelegates back then, DO YOUR HOMEWORK!
CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN
OBAMA NOT CLINTON IN 08
Oh and Ryan, can't you take the truth?What is the internet going to do when they have all these pro Hilary sites out there and she is sitting at home crying because she lost to a black man and her husband left her for a woman who does not wear a pantsuit. And her daughter keeps calling her a looser? HUH? What then?
Why can't you leave all the comments on here or are you too scared of losing any and all arguments?
To katherineny,
Brilliant! By the way, Kenedy lost the nomination!
I still say, when this is over, we need a Democrat in the Whithouse. Obama has the inside track but if Hillary was the candidate, I'd vote for her. You fools who will not support anyone but Clinton are idiots! You people don't give a crap about this country, just your political agenda. Hope you'll be happy with McBush!
True that Kennedy lost the nomination, but he was still allowed to make his case at the convention. Why are you so afraid of Clinton making her case at the convention? And, Clinton's case is more weighty than Kennedy's was. She has won the swing states, and possibly the popular vote if FL & MI were counted. She may lag behind in the delegate math, but the electoral math is on her side.
By the way, I don't want to get into a blogger fight on this site or any other. I just have my views which I believe I am still allowed to have, no?
We have such a bully culture (reality TV and the sexist media included). And, I dont' want to be part of a back and forth bullying effort.
OK here are the true facts:
Even with michigan and florida Obama has the popular vote lead because there are three or four caucus states that don't add in their popular vote and Hilary got her butt kicked in all of those states.
Second yes Hilary won the swing states and the electoral math but they only counts in the general election. (How can you say Hilary has a better shot when you can't count winning swing states because that was dem. vs. dem, not dem. vs. rep.).
Thirdly, the "woman" is being asked to drop out to try and help her save money since she can NOT win and she should just let Obama get on with the campaign against McBush.
And do you honestly think that advertisers on NBC will pull their ads because you can't handle losing? I think not. Now stop going on TV ladies, your embarrassing yourselves and all the REAL DEMOCRATS are getting sick of this.
When I say REAL DEMOCRATS I am referring to those of us that will back Obama as presidential nominee because he will be the nominee and we are not crybabies.
Just a refresher, I live in Florida and was dissapointed about the national party taking all our votes BUT, ALL candidates agreed not to participate in Florida and Michigan. Also, they all agreed to take their names off the Michigan ballot. Hillary went back on her word and left her name on the Michigan ballot. I say we seat Florida, as is, realizing Clinton won but split Michigan 50-50. That would be the fair way to do it. Hillary cannot expect to get the delegates from Michigan, that's absurd!
I have already switched to independent. I refuse to be told who I should support.
The media coverage has been both biased and sexist. What has been disappointing is seeing women also participating in hatred for Hillary.
http://poltclanml.blogspot.com/
-dont listen to these obamabots, this is just one of hundreds of underground movements around the country, to take back our power.
-obamas constituents are made up mostly of children, who have never donated years of time and money to the democratic party, like we have.
-they are made up of the well to very well off, bored elite side of the democratic party, those people that pretend to be about helping out the needy, but really have no clue who we are.
-the other obama supporters are the radicals and extremists of the democratic party, which is all about chaos, for chaos sake.
-there are some new, and politically un-savy folks, as well as 'dreamers' who have become mesmerized by offers of a magical new world.
-that being said, the staunch party memebers have been pushed aside so the scheming democratic leadership can build its army of new voters.they've made a terrible calculation.
-we'll fight, we'll abandon the party that abandoned us, without looking back. because they have lost their moral compass. they have decieved and lied and cheated through out the campaign with the help of liberals in the media and congress.
-mccain at least we know is not evil, we can hope to have influence with him and the republican party, who just as we do, sees the real danger of this 'new democratic' party.
we at least are old and wise enough to see the 'wolf in sheeps' clothing.
welcome ladies, this is bigger than you know...
-dont listen to these obamabots, this is just one of hundreds of underground movements around the country, to take back our power.
Your power? You never had the power.
-obamas constituents are made up mostly of children, who have never donated years of time and money to the democratic party, like we have.
With all that time in why are you leaving the party?
-they are made up of the well to very well off, bored elite side of the democratic party, those people that pretend to be about helping out the needy, but really have no clue who we are.
Which of the two candidates is worth more then $100 MILLION?
-the other obama supporters are the radicals and extremists of the democratic party, which is all about chaos, for chaos sake.
Chaos? You are causing the chaos.
-there are some new, and politically un-savy folks, as well as 'dreamers' who have become mesmerized by offers of a magical new world.
? Well since you have gotten most of your "facts" WRONG you must be one of these new, un-savy folks.
Y'all got it?
-that being said, the staunch party memebers have been pushed aside so the scheming democratic leadership can build its army of new voters.they've made a terrible calculation.
It's called A Change You Can Believe In. OBAMA 08
-we'll fight, we'll abandon the party that abandoned us, without looking back. because they have lost their moral compass. they have decieved and lied and cheated through out the campaign with the help of liberals in the media and congress.
BYE! We are the only ones that have NOT lied, cheated, or cried to try and get something we said we did not want last Sept.(fyi: Fla. and Mich.).
-mccain at least we know is not evil, we can hope to have influence with him and the republican party, who just as we do, sees the real danger of this 'new democratic' party.
we at least are old and wise enough to see the 'wolf in sheeps' clothing.
welcome ladies, this is bigger than you know...
Sorry for your views ladies but you are wrong on all your points. If you were truly democrats you would support the clear nominee of the party in the general election otherwise our boys will be in Iraq for who knows how long, our vets won't get the better GI Bill that McCain says he will veto and so did his brother GW. Is that how we pay back our troops who when some come home with PTSD they are being MISDIAGNOSED so we can save money, not lives. Then there is the economy. I would love to live in a recession with no end in sight. I think everyone should once in their lives. And I would love to pay much more in taxes (I make less then $75,00) then someone like say WAL-MART (Billions and billions of PROFIT)
itsanewday, Wow, you're living in a fantasy world. First, I'm 61 years old, a life long Democrat and worked with Lawton Chiles, former Florida Governor.
You kids need to look at reality. McCain is a wolf in wolf's clothing. He has voted with Bush 95% of the time. On the important issues, he is a Bush clone. Can't you see how these Republicans have ruined this country, taken away our rights?
We can't afford 4 more years of the Bush economy and foreign policy.
I was a Hillary supporter but felt that Obama offered a new start. A break from the old polotics.
Stop thinking with emotion! Think with your brain.
It is my opinion that Obama supporters are very similar to Bush Republicans regarding their behavior and demeanor on the blogs. It has been stated how intelligent you folks are. However, your questionable grammar, misspelled words, and childlike comments speak volumes. Nevertheless, the blogs are clogged with your thoughts and feelings. Now for mine.
Many of us recall the past elections and how the Republicans stole the 2000 election, then swift boated John Kerry in 2004. During that process the media did the same thing that you are seeing and hearing now. Many so-called media experts are not Democrats but Republicans, and if Obama turns out to be the nominee you will see them turn on him and help McCain. Unfortunately by then it will be too late and the Democrats lose the election. It would seem to me that not only are you being lulled by Obama, you are being duped by the media. One example: During the 2004 election Chris Matthews appeared to be pro Kerry. However, just before the election, he was practically foaming at the mouth with excitement for George Bush. Many others had done this, too. In fact two of the CNN anchors are now with Fox news.
I am not bitter regarding Obama being the nominee, but am very concerned as to his lack of experience and judgement.. It cannot be argued that Obama is extremely inexperienced, certainly so in comparison to Hillary. Added to his lack of experience is the question of his judgement regarding his past and/or present associations (i.e. Wright, Ayers, Rezco, and Farrakhan, etc.). His wife has had little complimentary to say about our country or her experiences in same. Also, it has been reported that Rev Wright will be making two more appearances toward the end of this month. What sort of impact will this have in the general election? The Republicans and media will have a field day with it.
To the pundits and others who claim that the Democrats will unite as one are incorrect.
The bottom line is that we all lose in the end. Most Hillary supporters including myself will not vote for Obama – we will likely stay home, or worse, vote for McCain. The reason being that we at least require someone with substantive foreign policy experience in the Oval office, and Obama simply has none. Nevertheless, you can rest assured that in the run up to the general election, the Republicans will have a field day with golden boys Obama and Edwards. And in the end, the media will have fulfilled its agenda and deny the Democrats the opportunity to restore America economically, internationally, and morally.
As for myself, I will use my brain and good judgement and remain a Hillary supporter and look forward to her fall campaign as the Democratic candidate.
I am a 53 year-old female and I do not believe you are true Clinton supporters or feminists. You have been planted by the Republicans to make Hillary and women in general look bad. And it has nothing to do with Barack Obama. You are throwing him in as a red herring by saying "he doesn't share your values, and you have no choice other than McCain."
This is patently ridiculous, as you are asking Democratic women to vote against "sexism" by voting for John McShame, who has a laundry list of blatantly misogynist and sexist behavior. Here are just a few: He dumped his disabled wife for the woman he was cheating on her with, and once she became his wife, he called her a CUNT!, and when asked at a fundraiser about "how are we gonna beat the bitch (Hillary), he said, "good question." (Not to mention that he wants our sons and daughters to die in Iraq AND IRAN!)
I WILL NOT VOTE FOR A MAN THAT CALLS HIS WIFE A CUNT OR CALLS HILLARY A BITCH!!!!!! What kind of self-destructive behavior are you advocating?!!!!!!
Senator Obama has a documented pro-woman voting record, and obviously adores his (first and only) wife and daughters. And for Heaven's sake, "sweetie" is an endearment, one that I have been called by both men and women, and would gladly be called again. But I would flatten any man that called me or any woman I know, a CUNT!!!!!
I will vote for the Democratic nominee, whomever that may be at the end of this primary season; and I urge you all to do the same, or stay home. Shame on you for your hate-mongering!!
To democratnomatterwhat; You go girl! I think you're right. This movement isn't a Hillary movement, it's a Republican front group. I should have seen that coming. Real Democrats and Hillary supporters would not even THINK about voting for that slime, McBush.
Ladies, take this Republican movement and shove it up your asses! You deserve McBush and more war.
Don't be fooled that a Democratic majority in Congress will control John McCain. We have a majority Democratic Congress that cannot end the Iraq Occupation.
A vote for John McCain is a vote for four more years of American sacrifice in men and womens lives and the continued ruination of our economy.
Kathy B. proud non-sexist, non-racist, working class woman, age 51 Richmond, VA
This group is not a Republican front. Women are furious at the sexism of the media and how the DNC has been silent on the mistreatment of a fellow politician. I am a lifelong Democrat who will vote McCain if Obama is the nominee. I want experience in the White House.
I’ll take good judgment and intelligence every time over the bad judgment elicited by flawed experiences and intellectual bankruptcy!! Again, THINK, don’t use emotion. We can’t afford for these criminals to keep power.
Obama OR Clinton is the only choice. WAKE UP!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
OMG! katherineny,You make me laugh at how pathetic a liar you are!! Every true "lifelong Democrat" knows McCain has no real experience and is a woman-hating, skirt-chasing old man!
No self-respecting woman or democrat would ever vote for him!! ROFLMAO!!
And just in case you hadn't noticed the lack of impact your little bratty rants are having, nobody gives a shit! All of us adult Democrats will leave you to pitch your pathetic lying hissy fit in a vacuum. WAH! WAH! WAH!!! Sorry, can't hear you....buhbye!
I believe Clinton Supporters Count Too is correct that any organization should be held accountable if they choose to make personal attacks against someones character. Why didn't groups form and come together actively when these attacks first started? Why wait until the end of the campaign when the outcome is almost decided?
All people, men and women, black and white, young and old have an emotional stake in the outcome of this Democratic Primary. We're human and our disappointment begins to show in anger and actions we may regret.
Google Dr. Albert Ellis's theory on Rational Emotive Behavior Therapy (For a little levity, I'm no psychologist but after the primary I did stay at a Holiday Inn Express last night.) Which I use.
If Hillary Clinton continues to turn the tide back on all that is against her I will hold my head up high, walk into my local polling site and cast my Democratic vote for her.
Please be very clear and sure about what staying home or a vote for John McCain is and what the consequences will be. This is a cold hard fact.
If you do not understand sexism and cannot appreciate the way these women feel; get off the line. No one has asked you Odrama people for your opinion; there are useless, untruthful blogs for that. Sexism is not going to be condoned by us women and if you do not like it get off the page! No one is listening to you; we have made up our minds and if you want to condone a sexist pig, a sexist party and sexism in coverage; kill yourself. We, however will not support him/them/it. So jump up and down and hold your breath; we are voting for McCain. If you want our votes so badly, take a stand against sexism. Otherwise, cry like you have done all over this site. Standing up for what one believes is an American right; remember those? We are executing our rights so jump in the lake; if I want to vote for Mini Mouse I will! I will vote for anyone but Odrama! Chomp on that! I cannot believe the Odrama nerve; beat us up and ask for our vote? Yeah, right. We are awake, we are smelling the coffee and we are voting for McCain. There are no grounds in the Odrama coffee; we do not want that coffee, you go ahead.
If nobody is listening to us (Obana people with brains) then why are you refering to us in your posts? HUH? I can not hear you. Speak up! Oh and by the way, how come I have not seen ANYTHING on the major news channels concerning your little get togethers on Tuesday at NBC stations? Is it because they failed? (YES) Or are you going to pull out the sexism card again?
No one need be a reader or blogger at any particular blog to understand that a Republican John McCain Presidency would be a disaster for women.
Over 4,000 brothers and sisters and sons and daughters of women wee killed by the Bush Administration in Iraq and it will continue in a John McCain presidency.
To celebrate women hold John McCain's More Troops Die In Iraq Inaugural Rally.
Current makeup of the Supreme Court:
John Paul Stevens-age 87
Ruth Bader Ginsburg age75 Clinton nominee
Antonin Scalia age 72 Reagan nominee
Anthony Kennedy age 71 Reagan nominee
Stephen Breyer age 69 Clinton nominee
David Souter age 68 Bush(41) nominee
Clarence Thomas age 59 Bush (41) nominee
Samuel Alito age 57 Bush (43) nominee
John Roberts age 53 Bush (43) nominee
McCain Administration nominees to replace deceased and retiring justices to Supreme Court vote to overturn Roe v. Wade.
Women forced to remain pregnant take to the street in celebration.
You do not allow yourself to be pushed around or blackmailed or boycotted by a group of people for your vote. That's not the way the democratic process works in America.
You take your hard fought for right to vote and your conscience into the voting booth in November and cast your vote.
I'll listen to all arguments right up until the nominee has been chosen. I'm not an Obamabot but to show no partiality to one side or the other, I'll leave here now and take up blogging at the Obama Supporters Count Too website.
Hey Camille! You jump on that twisted logic of a sinking ship!! Yea, that's right, you don't condone sexism, my fat, white female ass!! You are condoning the most rampant kind of sexism by voting for John McCain, you blithering idiot!!
You are making Hillary look bad! She is a Democrat! She has said "DO NOT VOTE FOR JOHN MCCAIN" You are going against the direct wishes of your chosen candidate!!!
I am not an Obamabot, for God's sake, but you HAVE TO BE A FREAKING REPUBLICAN! And if you truly are not, than consider this an INTERVENTION!!! That is what friends do when someone is trying to kill themselves, with drugs, or alcohol, OR VOTING FOR A FREAKING SEXIST REPUBLICAN AGAINST THEIR BETTER INTERESTS!!!!! The coffee you must be smelling must have brain-draining drugs in it, cuz you are not thinking straight! You can't scream "SEXISM" IN THE SAME BREATH THAT YOU SAY "VOTE FOR MCCAIN"!!! Your brain cannot hold those two thoughts at the same time and be rational! So, if I am speaking to a Republican, as I suspect, fuck off. But if I am speaking to a fellow Democrat, this is tough love, baby!! Get your head on straight, or when you elect McCain, prepare to get out the coathangers, and send your kids to fight in a war, and keep giving your hard-earned money away to the filthy-stinking rich bastards who already run the fucking country!!!
I disown, disavow, reject, denounce and shun you--you are no Democrat!!
You are a pathetic example of sheeple who cannot think for themselves and buy into any bullshit that comes down the pike.
THINK! or you will take us all down with your stupid ass.
To liarliarpantsonfire,
WOW! You sure pegged Camille. She is a real wack job! Whine, Whine.... If I don't win, I'm taking my toys and going home! What a dumb bitch!
My wife has been a band director for 31 years. In the 70's, she had to put up with real sexism, "Honey, band directing is a man's job you need to teach elementary music with the other girls," as one Principal told her in 1973. She didn't whine, she went to another school, got a band directing job and let her talent prove she was one of the best band directors in the area (and still is). Now there are many women band directors in our area and most of them are better than many of the men.
This movement is a disgrace to women's rights. It plays into the stereotypes the right wingers like McCain use against women. Cut this movement off at it's knees. THINK!!!!!!!
David, you obviously are proud of your wife and a true dem/feminist! She sounds like a truly powerful woman, and I'll bet she doesn't think Obama is sexist either! My gut and my degree in psychology are telling me that the women on this site have had either atrocious fathers or cheating husbands or both, and that is why they "cling" to Hillary and why they are trying to take this out on Obama. They are projecting their anger against and their desire to be loved onto the candidates. If their representative "queen of victimhood" cannot be elected, then they'll boycott the cheating husband(Obama) in favor of the atrocious dad (McCain). They are all also "frozen children" who haven't matured enough to make rational decisions, also a product of mental/physical/emotional abuse.
All of which makes them most likely to be Republicans!!! Which means that they will vote for McCain anyway, and they are not worth our time and trouble. But thanks for helping me try to fight the good fight.
liarliarpantsonfire.
Sweetie, it appears that you have some anger issues, not to mention a foul mouth. For an allegedly educated individual, you certainly choose to speak (write) in a less than educated manner. Surely you could come up with linguistic alternatives to the "F" word and others.
There are many, many men who prefer Hillary over Obama. "Psychologically" speaking, how do you explain this? It is your choice to vote for whom you feel is the most experienced candidate. It is my considered opinion that Obama is extremely lacking in the experience department.
Brow beating Hillary supporters will get you nowhere.
Unfortunately, race and gender are a part of the hostility involved in our party. The polls have proved this fact. Hillary has been beaten up by the media, yet she keeps on fighting. It is her strength and character that I admire.
In my opinion, Obama is a flash in the pan -- all style and no substance.
hmckin, Hillary definitely is a strong exceptional woman, no doubt about it. It is not Hillary I have a problem with. And you did not say whether you are planning to vote for McCain or not, but it is THAT issue that I AM absolutely angry about!!!
And if you think I have anger issues and a foul mouth, it is just a sliver of what you can expect from an angry, foul-mouthed, misogynistic John McCain. He is the one who tells fellow senators to "fuck off" on a regular basis, he is the one that thinks Hillary is a "bitch" and calls his wife a "cunt"in public, and wants to "bomb, bomb, bomb, Iran".
If anybody claiming to be pro-Hillary and anti-sexism says they are going to vote for John McCain, I am going to yell. It is tantamount to you standing on the railroad tracks, stubbornly telling me that no train is coming--so for your own good, I am going to keep yelling and tugging at you to get you off the damn track, because the McCain train is going to run you down!!!!!!(and me with it, if you get him elected--thus my sense of anger and urgency! I do not want another Bush presidency!!) Open your eyes, open your ears, open your brain! A feminist democratic woman cannot vote for John McCain! Get off the freaking track!!!
Clinton Supporters Count Too and McCainb4obama will do more damage to Hillary's political reputation than a Barack Obama candidacy and nomination ever could.
In the end she will be totally humiliated by their actions and will be made to beg her supporters not to vote for John McCain or she will never see any party loyalty or support from any Democrats, who she has worked tirelessly for in the past, again.
She then might as well become like Joe Lieberman. Don't let the door hit you both in the ass on the way out.
As a Democrat who will vote for the nominee in November whether it is Obama or Clinton, I have a question for you about something that I am just unable to understand. Are you really willing to vote for someone (or tacitly support by sitting out the election) who wants to continue the war in Iraq, will do nothing about the healthcare crisis, will extend the disastrous Bush tax cuts, and will likely appoint two anti-abortion Supreme Court justices, just because you don't like Obama? It seems to me that the stakes are too high to do something like this. This is a serious question that I would really appreciate an answer to.
Reposted:
The truth is Obama is a fraud. He changes his story at every turn. He does not have the personal maturity to run this country.
I am from Chicago. Very media savvy about this election. I am a single educated mother who raised her kids without any assistance. Was it hard, YEP! My demographics are in the key audience where Obama SHOULD be attracting support.
Hear this LOUD and CLEAR... Obama super delegates... I WOULD never join a church like Obama did for my strength! and you can bet I WOULD not have my children receive their spiritual guidance in one like that. In fact I would be embarrassed to tell my Mom or any of the people I love if I did.
When one wishes to run a country, inner character is the most important quality for those of us making a decision about that candidate... Especially when there is a campaign of "change" with an inexperienced candidate like Obama. Then what do I have to judge him on?
Obama avoids votes, changes positions frequently and really has a far radical liberilsm that offends my sensibilities , just as him attending that church does. I believe he has been VERY disrespectful and sexist towards Hillary.
Further, I am FURIOUS at the cowardice that Obama showed in not supporting the right to vote in Michigan and Florida. He DID NOT take this stance because of "Principles" but because of political expediency. If he took a position on principles he would have said... "Dang... I am a Democrat, EVERY vote MUST count."
So He LOST my vote on that issue, before The Wright issue.... and now the Iran issue....
I have NEVER voted Republican. I was in the streets of Chicago opposing the war BEFORE it happened. If the DNC crams Obama down our throats, I WILL leave the Democratic party and become an Independent and I WILL vote for MCCain. An Obama:Hillary ticket will not work either. I wont vote for Obama to run this country in 2009, Period.
Hillary, Be our President or go back to lead the Congress. Don’t run with Obama.
I will also never give money to the DNC again. Since they cant figure out how to get the right to vote straight, they are not qualified to run a democracy based on the right to vote!
God Bless all of you and God Bless America!
Chalice Jackson
Chicago Illinois
Hello,
I send you this e-mail in peace. I just received information that you are leading a group prepared to campaign against Obama because you believe the media has been sexist, if Clinton does not win the nomination.
Well I hope this is just a rumor and not true. I am an African-American woman, so I know about sexism and racism. TRUST ME RACISM has been MUCH worse in this primary season then sexism. Let me give you some examples:
1) In New Hampshire Mark Penn went on MSNBC and accused Obama of selling drugs (black male stereotype). Obama has been very candid about his drug use as a youngster but never drug dealing.
2) Clinton said that Dr. Martin Luther King was a great orator but it took President L.B. Johnson to get things done. Then she accused Obama of using the race card when she is the one that said it.
3) Geraldine Ferraro said that Obama has an "affirmative action" candidacy.
4) President Clinton belittled Obama by saying that his win in SOuth CArolina was similar to Jesse Jackson's
5)Clinton recently said that she is winning, "the hard working americans, WHITE AMERICANS," and actually said that her supporters were better.
So unless you want race riots in the streets, I think you all should chill out. Hillary Clinton is losing because Obama is just a better candidate. He has inspired A LOT of young people and new voters all together.
And I find it offensive and insulting that you would assert that Clinton has experienced sexism but not aknowledge the racism.
Little girls across America are watching how hard is to break the glass ceiling. They are learning about the ruthless process which includes :
being called a blitch
being bullied
having her own party refuse to acknowledge her votes and strong following
having her followers called racists on SNL
having her party's superdelegates do everything in their power to dissway her voters and demand for her to step down even when she is leading in the popular and electoral vote
blaming her for her husband's policies which brought more prosperity and peace to America
having her legs, hips, and cleavage ridiculed on the polulation's tvs
The democratic party has turned into the most divisive bomb democracy could have endured. I'll never go back!
Our family regrets its vote for Edwards and his ambitious faux rhetoric.
My sisters and their families across America and friends all plan to boycott the vote for Obama on the issue of trust. While some plan to write in Hillary, the majority plan not only to vote for McCain but also to fully campaign for him. We too feel that the party has discounted our votes and interfered with a viable candidate’s chances for nomination.
Obama’s voting pattern in the state legislature is a mockery of an elected position. While Republicans and Democrats were in unison on giving sexual crime victims the right to seal their records, Obama’s vote was the sole dissent. He claimed that it was unconstitutional. He would often vote and change this vote the day after (according to the New York Times.) I say it was most likely to have it recorded by newspapers before he changed it. This pattern of behavior is a red flag to what lies ahead.
If anyone can post anything on the buses on May 31, please post it, and some of us will be on it.
OH, and if you want to riot, be my guest. I will work harder to give John McCain Florida.
I linked the video to my large site and the paid Obama hackers followed me. I recognize them; ignore them.
sandyinfl, did someone drop you on your head when you were a child? Hillary is not ahead in the electoral vote-far from it, and she is only ahead in the popular vote if you do not count caucus states and count the vote in michigan, where Obama was not even on the ballot--and Hillary even acknowledged that the vote there should not count! She and you are making things up as you go along! Read some hard news reporting, not Hillary's bs. No wonder our country is in such trouble, because people like you do not do their homework, believe bullshit, (like WMD and fearmongering). You may deserve to have Hillary or McCain for president, but millions of us want someone who will tell the truth instead of bullshitting!! If you weren't destroying the whole nation with your ignorant votes, I would just stfu, but you are taking me and millions of people like me down with you. Karma will get you in the end...you are sending the worst possible vibes out into the universe....you deserve what you get in return!!!
liarliarpantsonfire
Do I know you from the other forum? ha
Yes she is ahead in the electoral votes.
I can't believe you would destroy the democratic party by voting for a lousy candidate who is in so deep with promises to corporations that he is now asking us to make the change by dumping our big cars, eating less, and blah blah blah. His voting record has been on of appeasement as written by the New York Times and we can only look forward to more.
He voted against a 30% interest cap on credit cards and now the uninformed voters who back him will be paying up to 39% should they forget to pay their bill at any time.
Go ahead and vote on a wave of inspiration (laughing) and watch him give those credit card companies more power. Oh yeah, he'll tell you to stop charging and pay in cash.
Absolutely, nothing you can say or do will keep me from calling thousands for McCain, waving Liberals for McCain signs, and placing a McCain sign on my yard for my neighbors who thought I was a radical leftwinger. (I did this for the democrats) Maybe that will strengthen the republican resolve and help the fence sitters.
I'm just waiting for Obama to be appointed the nominee. Oh, I was in Orlando when he was campaigning there thru commercials on local tv. That is why he won some support there cause he spent a lot of money. You don't want anyone else to know that, do you?
How many anti-DNC and pro Hillary supporters are involved in the political process?
Have you worked with your local and state Democratic Party to make positive changes or do you just come out of the woodwork when some rule that you didn't even help get passed pisses you off?
How about making sure every vote counts for all Americans and not just the ones that satisfy your selfish interests.
Posted May 20, 2008 7:44 AM
The Swamp
by John Riley
Hillary Clinton, campaigning in Kentucky, sounds more and more like she's functioning in a parallel universe.
She said she has won based on the popular vote, if you count Michigan and Florida, which haven't counted since last year. She said she has won based on the winner-take-all Republican primary rules, which don't count because it's a Democratic primary. And, in a new twist, she says she's won in the Electoral College:
"The states that I've won total 300 electoral votes. The question is who can win 270 electoral votes? My opponent has won states totaling 217 electoral votes." Except that the Electoral College only counts after you win the nomination."
Get your heads out of your asses, electoral votes are not even in play during primary!! Hillary is happily telling the world that her voters are "low-information" (and boy is that you!) so she knows you are too stupid to look this stuff up. She is using your stupidity to get you to vote for her!! She tells you every kind of bullshit, and because you are "lowinformation" you believe her and vote any way she tells you to, like obedient little robots. I believe somewhere they call you
"hillbots" and that seems like an appropriate name!! Pathetic
Nobody has answered my question. Is voting for McCain and getting four more years of Bush really worth it just because you don't like Obama? Please help me understand.
Do I know you from the other forum? ha
Yes she is ahead in the electoral votes.
That would be fine if we were in a general election but we are NOT!
I can't believe you would destroy the democratic party by voting for a lousy candidate who is in so deep with promises to corporations that he is now asking us to make the change by dumping our big cars, eating less, and blah blah blah. His voting record has been on of appeasement as written by the New York Times and we can only look forward to more.
Do your homework you moron. Obama is the ONLY candidate that has NOT accepted lobbyists money or PAC money. Now we won't go into who Hilary is in bed with.
He voted against a 30% interest cap on credit cards and now the uninformed voters who back him will be paying up to 39% should they forget to pay their bill at any time.
I am unaware of this issue but when did ONE vote get a bill passed? I thought you needed a majority and if he was the only one to vote on that then obviously Hilary was not there to counter his vote.
Go ahead and vote on a wave of inspiration (laughing) and watch him give those credit card companies more power. Oh yeah, he'll tell you to stop charging and pay in cash.
Absolutely, nothing you can say or do will keep me from calling thousands for McCain, waving Liberals for McCain signs, and placing a McCain sign on my yard for my neighbors who thought I was a radical leftwinger. (I did this for the democrats) Maybe that will strengthen the republican resolve and help the fence sitters.
I'm just waiting for Obama to be appointed the nominee. Oh, I was in Orlando when he was campaigning there thru commercials on local tv. That is why he won some support there cause he spent a lot of money. You don't want anyone else to know that, do you?
You are obviously dumb and blind. Obama ads only appeared AFTER HILLARY WENT TO FLORIDA THE WEEK BEFORE THE PRIMARY, or did we forget that? How convenient.
To John Riley via "Sweetie" liarliarpantsonfire: Based on your comments, it is you in the parallel universe, not Hillary. Facts are hard to ignore, and 2.3 million people cast their votes in Florida and Michigan. Discounting that fact is supported only by Obama, his staff and supporters, and McCain. Reality will bite the Democratic party deeply if Florida and Michigan are ignored, but rest assured, neither Obama nor McCain will mind.
Regarding the Electoral College vote analogy. The key word is ANALOGY !!! Nobody has claimed to have won these votes -- mention of them has been made to demonstrate Hillary's strength in the general election in comparison to Obama's weakness in same. Obama has clammered incessently about how he has won more states, but the electoral college analogy simply clarifies his failure to put the large or swing states in play, and that is another dose of reality that will punish the Democrats in November if ignored.
I and my husband have been closely following the campaigns for months, and we have NEVER heard Hillary or her surrogates refer to anyone as "low information". You must have picked that one up from one of the "experts" on NBC, MSNBC, or CNN. I agree with most of the "working" class in this country that the only elitist in the arena is Obama.
I don't concur with the prospect of disappointed Hillary supporters switching their votes to McCain to punish the Democratic machine, but I really don't think it will matter in the long run. I think it is highly improbable that Obama's campaign will be able to withstand the heavy attacks that will be forthcoming from the Republican party. I also believe that he will undergo significant scrutiny (personal and political)in the coming months, and I just don't think he's up to the task.
Lastly, I want to say that I was proud to exercise my right to vote in my state's primary, and I proudly campaigned, volunteered, and voted for Hillary. I fully intend to exercise that right as I see fit this coming November. But if Obama is the nominee, I will choose to stay home.
Sorry to tell you all this but your "right to vote" in your state primary isn't really a protected right at all. Just search "presidential primaries".
There is no provision for the role of political parties in the United States Constitution. Before 1820, Democratic-Republican members of Congress would nominate a single candidate from their party. That system collapsed in 1824, and since 1832 the preferred mechanism for nomination has been a national convention. -Wikipedia
State laws and DNC rules can give you a primary just as DNC rules can taketh away.
Kathy,
You have made a good point. However, the primaries are necessary, even if poorly constructed as they presently are.
In the 2000 election Bush vs. Gore proves your point. Although Gore won the popular vote, Bush won the electoral college. And as we all know the Supreme court (Republican) justices chose Bush. It's not the first time that the electoral vote superceded the popular vote, but in this case, the Republicans and the Supremes not only ignored the will of the people, it ignored simple justice.
Regarding the primary process, I believe the DNC should change their rules. A candidate who recieves the most votes in the primary should be assigned the delegates (winner take all). I say that from a standpoint of basic fairness, not because I support Hillary. The present system as designed by the DNC is convoluted, confusing, and inherently unfair.
"We the people" just doesn't seem to apply in the present system.
I will continue to support Hillary as long as she remains a candidate, and if she is unsuccessful in her bid, I will pray that she runs again in 2012.
hmckin,
I think everyone should support their candidate 100%. None of this drop out because the race is over crap. I'll be at a "Get Out The Vote" drive tomorrow. While it is being hosted by myBarackObama.com I will be asking that everyone please register to vote no matter what candidate they support. As we all question what constitutional rights are being trampled on by our current government, the right to vote is too important to throw away.
You are so right about using Florida 2000 as a perfect example. Many issues regarding our voting rights need to be changed for the good of all citizens. It's 2008 for Pete's sake and states and political parties shouldn't be giving voters such complications, illegalities and rules that infringe on our right to cast our ballot.
There was a sad escalation in the verbal wars today, the reference to the Bobby Kennedy assassination. As an Obama supporter, I KNOW Hillary made a mistake. It was not something she intended to do. She is being demonized for a mistake and this is not fair. That’s all it was, a mistake.
This is the time our party needs to heal. The race needs to end. There is no way Hillary can win so she needs to wind things down, go through the motions for the next 2 week and we need to come together as a party.
Things like this happen during a long campaign. I don’t blame Hillary, I just think that this race has been so contentious for so long, it has gotten to all of us and all of them.
The important thing is not to allow the Republicans to have ANY power at all. It’s too dangerous for our country.
If Hilarys comment was just a mistake that comes from a woman who ALWAYS chooses her words carefully then why did she have to mention the assassination? Could she have just said that the '68 primaries went into June. This is also the third time that assassination has come out of her mouth. She used Bobby once before and she even said Obama can be compared to JFK, who was the favorite of the people with all these good ideas and then was assassinated for it and LBJ had to finish all of his promises. If I were Obama, I would watch my back very carefully.
I forgot one more thing. Bill had all but wrapped up the nomination long before June in 1992. So if she wants to quote history then maybe she should learn history first.
Tom,
You are incorrect. Bill Clinton wrapped up the nomination on 2 June 1992. He offcially became the Democratic candidate on 16 July 1992.
Robert Kennedy won the California primary on 4 June 1968 and was assasinated 5 June 1968.
There is nothing incorrect pertaining to Hillary's recollection of historical record regarding RFK and her husband. It's just another situation in which the media is interfering and taking Hillary's words out of context.
I am so sorry!
But do your studying. And learn to read.
I said he had it basically all but wrapped up before June.
And why must you bring up the assassination? Huh?
Tom "sweetie",
Perhaps it is you who should learn to read (I suggest starting with your own words). Your words were not "all but wrapped up before June", but "all but wrapped up long before June". The word "long" suggests an extreme difference in time.
The reference to RFK's assassination was simply a clarification of the time frame and nothing more.
I couldn't agree with you more hmckin.
tom? i would be willing to bet that you and the majority of ppl voting for obama could not tell me his stance on any of the major issues facing this country. Obama is just a smooth talker who has all the first time voters fooled. If Obama has all but wrapped up the primaries, then mccain has all but locked up the general election.
colbert,
That's kind of a broad generalization don't you think? Obama is basically the same on the issues as Clinton so I don't understand why he is the just the "smooth talker" and Clinton is somehow the only one with substantive policy positions.
Well, I'm not sure that I agree with you that he has the same stance on the major issues and Clinton. However even with that being the premise that was not my point. My point was that he may have the same stance on some of the issues, but the majority of people voting for him do not know what that stance is.
colbert,
Can you name one major difference on a important issue between Clinton and Obama? There really aren't any. And it seems you're suggesting Clinton supporters are somehow different than average Americans. Last I checked, Clinton supporters were supposedly "average" Americans, who don't know very much about politics.
Charlie,
In defense of colbert-o-crat:
Both Obama and Hillary have run their campaigns based upon differences on major issues such as judgement, experience, health care, and taxes. While in some cases the differences may be less than significant, I don't believe that was the point that colbert-o-crat was making. I believe he was saying that the majority of Obama's supporters are probably incapable of identifying or discussing Obama's positions. And that, Charlie, is the significant difference between Clinton and Obama supporters.
Are you serious? Obama always does better among more educated voters than Hillary. So to say Clinton's supporters have some vast knowledge of the issues that Obama's don't is preposterous. Also, for months Clinton has argued that the reason superdelegates should overturn the will of the people and give her the nomination is that she has the support of working class voters that Democrats need in the fall. Now you are arguing that these blue collar workers know more about the issues than Obama's college educated supporters. You can't have it both ways. Either the majority of her supporters are blue collar workers (who, on average, have less education), or her supporters know more about the issues than Obama supporters. The former invalidates your argument, and the latter invalidates hers. By the way, I'm not saying Clintons' supporters are dumb. I'm just trying to make the point that saying the majority of Obama's supporters are "incapable of identifying or discussing Obama's positions" is silly.
Here is some startling news just in about the primary:
Hilary has announced that if there is any life on Mars, she gets their votes and delegates which means according to her math she has just won the presidency. OH SHIT!
Charlie,
I guess you also don't understand math or proportions. It is agreed that Obama wins the majority of higher educated liberals, but that base represents a small proportion of his following. To Obama's credit, he has engendered a huge interest in young, first time voters, and that is where his bulk of his base lies. So, Charlie, the young voters are typically the most uninformed and most easily swayed by idealistic rhetoric.
Also to those who agree with Hilary that Bill did not wrap it up until June, maybe you should go back to school and learn a little history. He wrapped it up in MARCH. Yes I said MARCH. True he did not have the delegates until June but he wrapped it up in March when he became the only one left in the race, so who was going to get the other delegates. And I still don't understand why she said assassinated. Why couldn't she have just referred to Bobby in California and not assassinated in California? She is a cold and calculating politician so I really believe she said what she wanted to say.
Tom "sweetie"
Chill out. You seemed to be fixated on the "wrap up" date for Bill Clinton's nomination, and Hillary's reference to RFK's assassination. Was it probable that as of late March, 1992, Bill was the likely candidate? Agreed. Was it "wrapped up" at that time? Not exactly. It was not secured until he obtained the necessary delegates on June 2, 1992. But who cares? Only you, Tom.
Hillary's reference to RFK's assassination was not cold blooded and calculated. It was just a reference. Give it a rest.
Sorry to tell you loser but with no body else in the race the nomination was all wrapped up in March which you just agreed with. And tell me WHY she had to say when he was assassinated? Why couldn't she have just said in June like anyone with a brain would have said. If I were Obama I would watch my back because after being ripped about bringing up the assassinations of both JFK and Bobby she still uses that reference. And we are talking about the Clintons who will do WHATEVER it takes to win which by the way she won't.
I'm a reporter for Women's eNews and am trying to reach the organizer of Clinton Supporters Count Too. Can that person please call me at 202-667-0326?
Thank you,
Allison Stevens
The lady in the pant suit is singing a sad sad song. It's all over now. Let's all get behind the presumptive democratic nominee Barack Obama, the next president of the United States.
it is so good to find this www homepage. i spend all day with people who no care about the election and don't know how hillary was cheated.
i'm not a profesional but we have to organize and due 2 things, and noone seems to care anymore about all the cheating. people complain but just go on and on and on and on. we have to do SOMETHING NOW. hillary is INVETABLE but we need to make the vision come true.
what we do:
1] we tell democratic party to give hillary all her money back to give to internet companies like this homepage to SPREAT THE MESSAGE. she raised millions, more than anyone before her. she also made money from her book. only then can we make it work
2] to win electon, hillary needs to go to mcain (did anyone else see that picture of her and mcain looking with such r-e-s-p-e-c-t). she tell mcain to be her vp in NEW PARTY!!! or if he says know, then you go to republican party and tell them mcain too old and make her prez, him vp. it would be PERFECT think: hillary can bring nyc (she is from new york) + ohio (the guvnor likes her there) + arkansas (bills from there) + penn (they are better) + mcain brings arizona and florida (cubanos like him). It is the PERFECT team and hillary is prez!
we have somany years of liar presidents hillary will never lie
hi fellow web bloggers. i found another www homepage site which i thought would be good but they stole all the articles from this one.
it was called hillaryis44.org but i think they are hackerized since it won't let me write my comments there and when i red more of it, they stole the articles from this homepage!!!
be careful if you use that site - i dont know if they can steal your details and if they do maybe they will steal your credit card password. i'm going to ask my bank and chamber of commerce in the morning if i should charge all my accounts
they are trying to run hillary's name and make her look like the theif. just like all those secret liars who say they are helping but hurtin her
sorry friends for keep talking about this but you must now what i find out. the hillaryis44 homepage is hacked. look here
http://knowwherenow.blogspot.com/search?q=hillaryis44
i'm calling the better busines burogh in the morning. will these people never let up with their lies. these are all internet millonare trying to tell us what to do. hillary would never condone that WE NEED HER BACK
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